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fatchance · 11 January 2025, 08:26 AM

Hello crew,
I've inherited a 1016 Explorer. The serial is 2118XXX and my research dates it to 1969 and the papers that I have for it also date it to 1969. It is in very, very good condition cosmetically, has a 78360 bracelet with what appear to be 593 end links. I think, obviously, it has been serviced. It could possibly have begun life with a MK2 matte dial and a 7836 bracelet? I love this watch and it has sentimental value so I have no intention to sell it.

1. What are your opinions on its general condition?
2. What dial version is this? Service dial 3,4,5?
3. Why does it have these EL's? Would the 580 EL's provide a better fit?

0nly5iv3Digits · 11 January 2025, 09:11 AM

Wow! Condition of the case is outstanding on this example! Nice even patina on the hands and dial indices as well. I am having a hard time identifying the dial, however. I think you might be right that it is a service dial. The bracelet is a clue for sure.

Very nice, OP!

Dan S · 11 January 2025, 09:23 AM

It would be helpful if you could post a photo of the dial without such extreme artifacts.

fatchance · 11 January 2025, 10:23 AM

Is this one more helpful?

Dan S · 11 January 2025, 11:17 AM

Much better photo.

Fredrik · 11 January 2025, 10:33 PM

That bracelet is newer, the 78360 was introduced mid 70s. The 593 end link fittings are from the 80s. It might have come on a 7836 with 58 end link fittings.

fatchance · 12 January 2025, 05:46 AM

Thanks, everyone, for your input.

scrapmetal · 13 January 2025, 06:44 AM

The service dials in
explorer1016.**com**/matte/service-dials/
look quite similar to yours.
(Please remove the asterisk, since I don't have 10 posts yet I am not allowed to post links...)

Especially the last one on the left called "Service only Tritium".
Hope that helps.

11 January 2025, 08:26 AM	#1
fatchance 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Denver, CO Watch: GMT-Master II Posts: 34	Explorer 1016 evaluation Hello crew, I've inherited a 1016 Explorer. The serial is 2118XXX and my research dates it to 1969 and the papers that I have for it also date it to 1969. It is in very, very good condition cosmetically, has a 78360 bracelet with what appear to be 593 end links. I think, obviously, it has been serviced. It could possibly have begun life with a MK2 matte dial and a 7836 bracelet? I love this watch and it has sentimental value so I have no intention to sell it. 1. What are your opinions on its general condition? 2. What dial version is this? Service dial 3,4,5? 3. Why does it have these EL's? Would the 580 EL's provide a better fit? Attached Images

11 January 2025, 09:11 AM	#2
0nly5iv3Digits "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: EARTH Watch: What is "watch"? Posts: 1,570	Wow! Condition of the case is outstanding on this example! Nice even patina on the hands and dial indices as well. I am having a hard time identifying the dial, however. I think you might be right that it is a service dial. The bracelet is a clue for sure. Very nice, OP! __________________ “UNpolished or I’m not interested” 😎 2FA Enabled

11 January 2025, 09:23 AM	#3
Dan S 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 6,488	It would be helpful if you could post a photo of the dial without such extreme artifacts. __________________ @oldwatchdan on IG

11 January 2025, 10:23 AM	#4
fatchance 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Denver, CO Watch: GMT-Master II Posts: 34	dial close up Is this one more helpful? Attached Images

11 January 2025, 11:17 AM	#5
Dan S 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 6,488	Much better photo. __________________ @oldwatchdan on IG

11 January 2025, 10:33 PM	#6
Fredrik 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Sweden Watch: 1680 Posts: 1,887	That bracelet is newer, the 78360 was introduced mid 70s. The 593 end link fittings are from the 80s. It might have come on a 7836 with 58 end link fittings.

12 January 2025, 05:46 AM	#7
fatchance 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Denver, CO Watch: GMT-Master II Posts: 34	Thanks, everyone, for your input.

13 January 2025, 06:44 AM	#8
scrapmetal "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2022 Location: Hamburg Posts: 1	The service dials in explorer1016.com/matte/service-dials/ look quite similar to yours. (Please remove the asterisk, since I don't have 10 posts yet I am not allowed to post links...) Especially the last one on the left called "Service only Tritium". Hope that helps.

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