Some help with an authentication

[Spread5150]

I came across this watch in a pawn shop. The watch has a laser etched crown on the glass.

It has a serial number at the 6 o’clock position that bobs watches says comes back to a 2011-2025 It reads 8795l6v6

There is no markings on the caseback.

The clasp has the marking of :F6u

I’ve never played with a GMT. I have a modern day bluesy as my only Rolex experience.

It appears that the date function only changes when you go around the world with the hour hand. Also the gmt hand only moves in the far out position with the normal hour hand. In the number 2 position the hour hand changes but “clicks” between hours.


Here are some photos.

[Spread5150]

Well I just checked my bluesy and it also doesn’t have markings on the caseback.

[Spread5150]

Face

[springer]

Be careful. That watch is heavily counterfeited.

[Hkspwrsche]

Quicker to have them pull the case back to see the movement and then post a picture with the movement hacked and showing the escapement/balance wheel. I assume no box and papers? Not that those are a guarantee. Lighting and blurry pictures make it though online.

[ErichKeane]

OP mentioned on a different forum that this is at a pawn shop, listed at $3k. SO that screams fake.

F6U clasp code searched brings up a TON of rep-watch websites (that I refuse to click on), so I'm betting this is just a really good fake.

[Spread5150]

Yes that’s correct on the bracelet stamp.

I got a lot of photos so I could lean on the people here and I’m glad this community exists.

I have found a lot of great deals in pawn shops over the years. But I am cautious. I never buy anything I wouldn’t be happy being stuck with.


I also noticed in person and you can kinda see it in the picture a slight break in the letter D on “Swiss made”


I’m all ears if you see anything different. I can’t open the watch up there at the pawn shop ? What tool do I need if I’m going to do that ?

[Spread5150]

The bottom of the D was where I saw the break.

[Bxtek]

Originally Posted by ErichKeane

OP mentioned on a different forum that this is at a pawn shop, listed at $3k. SO that screams fake.

F6U clasp code searched brings up a TON of rep-watch websites (that I refuse to click on), so I'm betting this is just a really good fake.

If the price listed by the pawn shop is truly $3K, then this is most definitely a fake and the shop knows it. Pawn shops are not dumb when it comes to this kinda stuff as this IS their business. If they truly didn't know the authenticity, they would surely take it somewhere and pay to find out. They're not going to take a chance and leave around $15K equity on the table. That's my

[ErichKeane]

Originally Posted by Bxtek

If the price listed by the pawn shop is truly $3K, then this is most definitely a fake and the shop knows it. Pawn shops are not dumb when it comes to this kinda stuff as this IS their business. If they truly didn't know the authenticity, they would surely take it somewhere and pay to find out. They're not going to take a chance and leave around $15K equity on the table. That's my

Oh, I 100% agree with you here. Even the WORST pawn shop is going to google "Rolex GMT Master II Value" and see you can't get the shell of one for less than $10k. They are listing it at 3k because they know it is a fake.

But OP seems (here and there!) to not get that yet and thinks he's going to be able to get one over on them.

[PRSWILL]

Walk away.

[Tools]

Looks fake to me. If it is a reputable pawn shop they would tell you that it is a replica.

[Spread5150]

Originally Posted by Tools

Looks fake to me. If it is a reputable pawn shop they would tell you that it is a replica.

I am not an expert. Can you tell me what looks fake about it ?

[123Blueface]

Originally Posted by Spread5150

I am not an expert. Can you tell me what looks fake about it ?

For starters, imagine if you will, pawn shops generally buy cheap and the double price at minimum.
So……that means the seller got rid of it for peanuts, in spite of knowing fully well it’s worth.
Add to that, the pawn shop, assuming knows it’s a legit Pepsi, is selling it dirt cheap at a small fraction of market value.
The odds the seller and the pawn shops do not know the value of this watch……..well, better chance of catching a fart in a windstorm and painting it green.
Walk away.
It too good to be true, well……we all know the rest.

[NewMalto]

Buy the watch go out of the store, come back 30 min later and demand a real watch. If unwilling, sue them for the full amount of monetary damaged.

[PRSWILL]

Originally Posted by NewMalto

Buy the watch go out of the store, come back 30 min later and demand a real watch. If unwilling, sue them for the full amount of monetary damaged.

Yeah- no. Just walk away. It's fake- there are tells- including the price alone as a dead giveaway.

[Tubeguy]

Originally Posted by Spread5150

I am not an expert. Can you tell me what looks fake about it ?

Fakes of that watch will not have a lot of different serial numbers. Depending on who made it in China.

The serial is found etched inside the bottom of the rehaut, which is the brushed stainless metal just inside the bezel and butts up to the dial. Read the number and put it in google...something will show up.

Further, the rehaut on replica watches are not as shiny as a real Rolex, so that's another tell-tale sign. Put them side by side.

Taking the back off won't help you. They make 1:1 exact copies of the genuine Rolex movement at at least three Chinese factories, and you have to know what to look for. It will look the same all the way to the markings.

The one way to tell is look at the balance wheel. A real Rolex is adjusted using microstella screws. Google it. Once you see it, you can't unsee it.

There's no pawn shop dumb enough to not know what that watch is and worth. Worst part is, they know exactly what they are doing.

[ErichKeane]

Originally Posted by Tubeguy

Fakes of that watch will not have a lot of different serial numbers. Depending on who made it in China.

The serial is found etched inside the bottom of the rehaut, which is the brushed stainless metal just inside the bezel and buts up to the dial. Read the number and put it in google...something will show up.

Further, the rehaut on replica watches are not as shiny as a real Rolex, so that's another tell-tale sign. Put them side by side.

Taking the back off won't help you. They make 1:1 exact copies of the genuine Rolex movement at at least three Chinese factories, and you have to know what to look for. It will look the same all the way to the markings.

The one way to tell is look at the balance wheel. A real Rolex is adjusted using microstella screws. Google it. Once you see it, you can't unsee it.

There's no pawn shop dumb enough to not know what that watch is and worth. Worst part is, they know exactly what they are doing.

He posted the serial # in the post, and it appears to be unique, unless he's misread it.

That said, you can get 'custom' serial numbers from the "rep" shops these days based on a post I saw a few months ago, so googling the serial doesn't work anymore.

[Tubeguy]

Originally Posted by ErichKeane

He posted the serial # in the post, and it appears to be unique, unless he's misread it.

That said, you can get 'custom' serial numbers from the "rep" shops these days based on a post I saw a few months ago, so googling the serial doesn't work anymore.

A custom serial will be one in a thousand. I would still google the serial. Anyone new who buys a lot of watches might want to join a replica forum and lurk. It will make you rethink how you buy. Many of the members are real enthusiasts who own genuine watches and have incredible knowledge of many brands. They create vintage or franken watches for their own enjoyment and trade them with other enthusiasts.

Watch Youtube. This channel is the best explanation and lays it out https://youtu.be/OId0C2vzJbQ?si=ubsP1-wkZs2efV9k

[ErichKeane]

Originally Posted by Tubeguy

A custom serial will be one in a thousand. I would still google the serial.

Watch Youtube. This channel is the best explanation and lays it out https://youtu.be/OId0C2vzJbQ?si=ubsP1-wkZs2efV9k

The serial # is: 8795l6v6 according to OP. When I googled it, it didn't result in any results. DID you find differently?

[Tubeguy]

Originally Posted by ErichKeane

The serial # is: 8795l6v6 according to OP. When I googled it, it didn't result in any results. DID you find differently?

L6V6 is fake. That's how they are referred to if you Google it

Here is a video for a fake Pepsi, same channel https://youtu.be/xx32LYre0R4?si=arXcrwKC1bl_Uj54

[ErichKeane]

Originally Posted by Tubeguy

L6V6 is fake. That's how they are referred to if you Google it

Here is a video for a fake Pepsi, same channel https://youtu.be/xx32LYre0R4?si=arXcrwKC1bl_Uj54

Great! I guess that is the absolute confirmation we needed! I didn't realize/don't check out the fake community enough to have known that, just that googling it didn't come up with anything.

Thanks for putting the nail in this thread!

[Tubeguy]

Dude it's a rabbit hole you can go waaaaay down. I joined RWI, learned, and bought a couple reps that I can wear in lieu oof my genuine watches. Why? Robbery and not having to be careful about scratching it up.

They copy everything 1:1, but they are troublesome. I have one now that seems to run fine. If it breaks, I'll take the bracelet off and put it on my genuine Batgirl.