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Old 22 January 2025, 12:59 AM   #1
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116900 3rd time to RSC?

I purchased my 116900 Sept. 2021. From the moment I put it on the watch was +30 seconds a day. I wear 24/7. After about three months watch was sent to RSC under warranty. When returned watch settled in at +15 seconds a day. I went to Benari Exton and told in house Rolex watchmaker that watch is running fast. She said on timegrapher was -4 seconds a day. I said please slow it down. She obviously sped it up; now +45 seconds a day. Goes back to RSC again. Now after a year a seven months doing +25 seconds a day. I dropped watch off again at Benari Newtown Square. They sent it to the Exton location I was told. From there it may be fixed or possibly have to be sent again to the RSC. I understand the + or - 2 a day is under controlled testing. I just feel the +25 and more is unacceptable. Two questions: Watch does run strong. Is it just a regulation or did I get a lemon? Second question, Anyone on here have dealings with either of the Benari locations mentioned? Thanx everyone.
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Old 22 January 2025, 09:09 AM   #2
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I purchased my 116900 Sept. 2021. From the moment I put it on the watch was +30 seconds a day. I wear 24/7. After about three months watch was sent to RSC under warranty. When returned watch settled in at +15 seconds a day. I went to Benari Exton and told in house Rolex watchmaker that watch is running fast. She said on timegrapher was -4 seconds a day. I said please slow it down. She obviously sped it up; now +45 seconds a day. Goes back to RSC again. Now after a year a seven months doing +25 seconds a day. I dropped watch off again at Benari Newtown Square. They sent it to the Exton location I was told. From there it may be fixed or possibly have to be sent again to the RSC. I understand the + or - 2 a day is under controlled testing. I just feel the +25 and more is unacceptable. Two questions: Watch does run strong. Is it just a regulation or did I get a lemon? Second question, Anyone on here have dealings with either of the Benari locations mentioned? Thanx everyone.

Something doesn’t seem right. Is it getting magnetized somehow?

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Old 22 January 2025, 09:17 AM   #3
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It's way out of spec so something is going on. Hopefully the RSC will set it and let it run for a few days to successfully reproduce the issue. If I had a watch which had required that many visits to a service bench since 2021, the first thing I would be doing is selling it when I got it back.

Do you own any other mechanical watches and wear them at the same locations and times as your 116900? Magnetisation is a possibility but your watch should be fairly resistant and all your mechanical watches would be affected to some extent.
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Old 22 January 2025, 10:37 AM   #4
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My other watch is a BB 54. It has done the same thing. From the moment I put it on it does +25 seconds a day. I got it in October 2024. Still under warranty. I am wearing it now as the 116900 is being repaired. I will probably send this one in as well.
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Old 22 January 2025, 11:09 AM   #5
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Seems like it could be magnetized. By chance do you work near any medical equipment or any other devices that could affect the watch?
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Old 22 January 2025, 11:20 AM   #6
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Something is really weird if both watches run fast only when you wear them, yet the sub was more or less fine on the timegrapher...
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Old 22 January 2025, 01:00 PM   #7
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Op, the odds of having 2 watches with the same issue is not normal, there is something causing this to happen. A place you visit or something at work or home. I once had an issue at airport security after going through it. My watch was put that machine and I knew it would cause problems later.

I don’t think they are both defective, no way. Magnetism for sure from somewhere.
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Old 23 January 2025, 02:02 AM   #8
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Get a quality demagnetizer.
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Old 23 January 2025, 02:07 AM   #9
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I’d let them run down to a stop.

Then I’d give them both a full wind (do not wear) and observe how they perform.
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Old 23 January 2025, 11:51 AM   #10
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I have done that. Ran both resting with crown up . Power reserve was correct on both. Both gained just a few seconds for the time they ran. They were not touched at all. To answer a previous question, no I am not around anything I'm aware of that would magnetize my watches.
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Old 24 January 2025, 02:40 AM   #11
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I have done that. Ran both resting with crown up . Power reserve was correct on both. Both gained just a few seconds for the time they ran. They were not touched at all. To answer a previous question, no I am not around anything I'm aware of that would magnetize my watches.
There's your answer. Sounds like the watches aren't the problem.
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Old 25 January 2025, 10:46 PM   #12
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The problem is how I wear it then? I wear literally 24/7. Just seems without resting at night it's still gaining too much.
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Old 25 January 2025, 11:46 PM   #13
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The problem is how I wear it then? I wear literally 24/7. Just seems without resting at night it's still gaining too much.
Try this give your watch a full manual wind that's 40 full crown turns clockwise only don't worry you can't over wind it.Then set watch with a reliable time source and wear for 8 hours a day with reasonable wrist activity.Check time once daily with same setting source write down the loss or gain,do this over 7 days then average out the loss or gain over the 7 days rest off wrist flat dial up.
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Old 26 January 2025, 12:02 AM   #14
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Try this give your watch a full manual wind that's 40 full crown turns clockwise only don't worry you can't over wind it.Then set watch with a reliable time source and wear for 8 hours a day with reasonable wrist activity.Check time once daily with same setting source write down the loss or gain,do this over 7 days then average out the loss or gain over the 7 days rest off wrist flat dial up.
Along the same lines of what I was thinking Peter
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Old 4 February 2025, 05:07 AM   #15
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First, thanx for everyone's input and help. I did what Padi said. If I understood correctly, I wore my BB 54 for eight hours; rested for sixteen. At the time of my experiment the watch gained 25 seconds a day, every day being worn 24/7. With the rest over the 7 day period the watch gained an average of 14.8 seconds a day. Watch runs strong. Not horrible numbers, but I like to not take it off. Is this a regulation? Thanx again everyone.
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Old 4 February 2025, 05:30 AM   #16
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I'm not watchmaker, but I would try to demagnetize it first (maybe at a watch maker). If problem persists...then I would think regulation. If regulation doesn't if it, then need to figure out the next issue.
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Are you using a laptop? One with strong speakers? My macbook emits pretty significant magnet fields on both sides.

Other common sources are mostly speaker related, or powerful electric motors.
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