Rolex 16610LV need help

[trashmailhello1@gmai]

Experts, tell me your opinion on the Rolex 16610LV watch.
1)Original or not?
2)Year of manufacture?
3)Investment attractiveness?
4)Price?

[Bazil]

Welcome …

[casadecamporolex]

Does the warrantee describe as LV bezel?

[Gearjockey]

How is it that legacy members here can’t figure out how to post pics yet someone with one controvertible post is able to include perfect pics?


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[Flipmarine2k]

My thoughts….The 16610LV is my favorite all time submariner.
Get an authentic black aluminum bezel and you have the best of both worlds.

[928ktgold]

Looks complete to me. Condition is the most important

[ChronoZach]

Condition is everything here, and the warranty paperwork that shows which bezel it came with. As far as investment? What did you or are you paying for it? If you paying $5-7K then yes, if you are paying $14K No, so it depends.
Definitely a great piece that will hold its value.

Cheers,

[thesharkfactor]

The green tag there with the anchor, does it say it's a 16610LV?

Some close up pics of the watch would allow appraisel of the condition.

[trashmailhello1@gmai]

[trashmailhello1@gmai]

Thank you for expressing your opinion.
I attach the photo that the seller has

[brandrea]

Welcome aboard

[trashmailhello1@gmai]

Originally Posted by brandrea

Welcome aboard

thnx bro

[rmagoo57]

pics are horrible for answering any of your questions

[SaddleSC]

One possible red flag is that the seller has the hands aligned over the date window and under the cyclops in every photo...this is a common trick to hide any obvious magnification issues that would indicate that the watch was not authentic.

[Tools]

1) Can't say, a lot of stuff comes through Hong Kong. I don't see anything that confirms an LV here

2) Can't say, but the paper is dated 2006. A serial prefix could narrow it down further.

3) Watches are seldom investments. The original run of LV's have the best chance of increasing value - but not if you wear it

4) Local prices vary considerably, so check your own area pricing, the Internet is full of them.

[trashmailhello1@gmai]

Originally Posted by SaddleSC

One possible red flag is that the seller has the hands aligned over the date window and under the cyclops in every photo...this is a common trick to hide any obvious magnification issues that would indicate that the watch was not authentic.

very interesting remark

[trashmailhello1@gmai]

Tell me, what other photos should I request?

[DoctorsOrders]

Only way to really authenticate it is to send it to RSC. Is your selling willing to send it to RSC? You can add the price to the cost of the watch and then you have price of mind.

[S.Explorer]

Originally Posted by thesharkfactor

The green tag there with the anchor, does it say it's a 16610LV?

OP, this is the only indication (but not guarantee) given papers for many regions don't specify LV variant.

Ideally, you'd ask the RSC to confirm via serial number.

[Bartolo]

My opinion on the 16610LV generally is that it's a fantastic version of the Submariner.

I own one (purchased new in 2007) and it's the only Sub I've ever owned and almost certainly ever will.

But "fakes" can be very good these days and authenticating from photos - blurry at that - just cannot be done very reliably.

[hutch300]

I am surprised you got any replies. We don't talk price or investment and your pics are terrible. Try high resolution photos, compete sentences, and contributing to the forum. My guess is you get answers and are never seen again. When I see your post I see someone hoping to find out if we spot the fake you know you have.

[springer]

From my experience with many of these models that have passed through my hands, the watches sold in the USA had typed warranty papers and the 16610V designation found within the style number located in the top right corner of the warranty paper indicating the watch was a 16610LV.

The warranty papers from outside the USA were normally found with punched holes for information in the top corner style number and there was no 16610V or 16610LV within the style number. What you did find with these watches was a green hang tag with 16610LV typed underneath and to the left of the serial number and the bracelet style on the bottom right side of the serial number. This tag would be a nice addition to these sets and further the verification as being an original LV.

[garyk]

OP, here’s one from 2004 you can compare to! Good luck…




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[Roddypeepa]

Originally Posted by SaddleSC

One possible red flag is that the seller has the hands aligned over the date window and under the cyclops in every photo...this is a common trick to hide any obvious magnification issues that would indicate that the watch was not authentic.

Agreed. The date magnifier was one thing they struggled with. This is a watch that needs ALL the paperwork as a lot of dodgy ones out there. To my eye, case and bezel look fine. Dial checks out but as others have said only way to know for sure on one of these is probably RSC. GOOD LUCK!


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[Bxtek]

Originally Posted by SaddleSC

One possible red flag is that the seller has the hands aligned over the date window and under the cyclops in every photo...this is a common trick to hide any obvious magnification issues that would indicate that the watch was not authentic.

The set looks nice at face value, but I agree with this! I saw the hands at 3:15 and that was an immediate thing of suspicion. If you look at the photo of the complete set.....it's hard to see but the second hand is at 0:37. In the close up photo of it on his wrist, the second hand is at 0:25. However, both photos the watch is EXACTLY at 3:15? I highly doubt those 2 photos are 12 seconds apart.

Also, in the one close up photo of the watch in the box, is that the LEC you can see on the crystal? If so, that is a HUGE red flag! I know they used LEC's in this year model, but it shouldn't be able to see it there.

Bottom line is that better and more photos are needed, and you can't tell much from those.

Oh.....and welcome to TRF OP!

[trashmailhello1@gmai]

Originally Posted by Bxtek

The set looks nice at face value, but I agree with this! I saw the hands at 3:15 and that was an immediate thing of suspicion. If you look at the photo of the complete set.....it's hard to see but the second hand is at 0:37. In the close up photo of it on his wrist, the second hand is at 0:25. However, both photos the watch is EXACTLY at 3:15? I highly doubt those 2 photos are 12 seconds apart.

Also, in the one close up photo of the watch in the box, is that the LEC you can see on the crystal? If so, that is a HUGE red flag! I know they used LEC's in this year model, but it shouldn't be able to see it there.

Bottom line is that better and more photos are needed, and you can't tell much from those.

Oh.....and welcome to TRF OP!

very grateful for the work done

[TickTockChuck]

Originally Posted by Roddypeepa

Agreed. The date magnifier was one thing they struggled with. This is a watch that needs ALL the paperwork as a lot of dodgy ones out there. To my eye, case and bezel look fine. Dial checks out but as others have said only way to know for sure on one of these is probably RSC. GOOD LUCK!


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Why not ask the seller for a closeup picture of the watch face with the hands moved away from the cyclops to examine the look of the magnification (post picture here for opinions if needed).
Also ask the seller if they have any references (although I suppose that could be faked with their friends).
The green aluminum bezels I think are available separately as there's not much to them, so they could be swapped on a regular Submariner or a good quality fake, so be careful.
Good luck and choose your seller carefully.
Cheers

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Flipmarine2k

My thoughts….The 16610LV is my favorite all time submariner.
Get an authentic black aluminum bezel and you have the best of both worlds.

And that's one of the main reasons why the LV inserts are crazy money and now only available from Rolex only.Those wanting to change from green to black and visa versa.And green inserts now only available to genuine 16610LV with all the paperwork direct from Rolex only.

[trashmailhello1@gmai]

I'm sharing more photos. The numbers on the 2 documents match