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Jan Davis · 13 April 2011, 04:11 AM

This is a excellent example of a spider web dial, and it is awesome in any collection!

Dave_T26 · 13 April 2011, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 5517

It's a 844xxxx. I think the replacement dial is luminova despite the T<25 marking. I read somewhere that Rolex produced some T<25 dials even though the markers contained no tritium. I prefer the aged look of the old one but I'm not a fan of the spidering. RSC replaced the hands at the same time. Sent those back too!

Yeah, I agree about replacing the dial despite the "aged look." Two dials and two sets of hands after servicing? You can't go wrong there!

5517 · 13 April 2011, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave_T26

Yeah, I agree about replacing the dial despite the "aged look." Two dials and two sets of hands after servicing? You can't go wrong there!

I bought the watch in '84 and it was only serviced for the first time in '96. The service cost almost as much as I paid for the watch. I did have a lot replaced though: dial, hands, clasp and bezel insert plus the service.

Jason71 · 13 April 2011, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 5517

It's a 844xxxx. I think the replacement dial is luminova despite the T<25 marking. I read somewhere that Rolex produced some T<25 dials even though the markers contained no tritium. I prefer the aged look of the old one but I'm not a fan of the spidering. RSC replaced the hands at the same time. Sent those back too!

What about the bezel insert?? It looks to be replacement also........did they send you the original??

5517 · 13 April 2011, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason71

What about the bezel insert?? It looks to be replacement also........did they send you the original??

They did replace the bezel insert but that I didn't get back. In all I received the original dial, hands and clasp. Lost out on the insert. I don't remember asking them to replace the insert either.

Onikage · 13 April 2011, 06:49 AM

Lets see a pic of a tropical dial then? I typed it in on google and it came up with a rusty old thing. LOL

Onikage · 13 April 2011, 06:50 AM

It looked like it had been recovered from the wreckage of the Titanic.

MonBK · 13 April 2011, 07:06 AM

I'd like to hear from a collector who paid extra for a damaged dial.

Anyone here did it?

Frogman4me · 13 April 2011, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Onikage

Lets see a pic of a tropical dial then? I typed it in on google and it came up with a rusty old thing. LOL

Ask Ken to post his 1680 it will blow your mind! Tropical dials are the best thing to happen since sliced bread

Onikage · 13 April 2011, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Frogman4me

Ask Ken to post his 1680 it will blow your mind! Tropical dials are the best thing to happen since sliced bread

Ah so sorry, under further research I've seen the chocolate brown dials. They certainly are nice. I didn't mean to be a vintage hater and I'd certainly like to own one, but would you seriously consider buying this poor thing? (it's what I found when I googled "Tropical Rolex")

Onikage · 13 April 2011, 07:31 AM

I'd imagine there's some severe moisture intrusion for this kind of patina to occur!

Rolex116520 · 13 April 2011, 07:34 AM

Look it at this way : A watch with spider dial is a watch that didn't get serviced . Rolex was changing these faulty dial as and when they were presented .
Spiderwebs are called collectables by the people that own them .. or claiming that it is not ugly but it adds character .

Frogman4me · 13 April 2011, 07:34 AM

That dial is damaged by water, I would never consider that a tropical dial.

Onikage · 13 April 2011, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Frogman4me

That dial is damaged by water, I would never consider that a tropical dial.

Here's the page. http://vintage-watches-caribbean.com...ail_watches=20

I agree completely. I mean imagine what the insides are like they must be full of rust dust grinding away!

mrbill2mrbill2 · 13 April 2011, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Frogman4me

I'm sure there are a few collectors who may prefer this dial for preference but I do not know anyone who really cares for them. They do acknowledge they exist but desiring them I hear no such things. Now if your talking tropical dial then collectors go crazy and pay the premium without hesitation. I am one of those nuts!

Excuse my ignorance but, what is a tropical dial?

Frogman4me · 13 April 2011, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mrbill2mrbill2

Excuse my ignorance but, what is a tropical dial?

It's a black dial that has naturally faded into a chocolate color brown. Only a small amount of select batches from a short period of time had this happen to the dial.

HL65 · 13 April 2011, 10:48 AM

David my friend since you asked: 1969 Tropical Red

J.Wong · 13 April 2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mrbill2mrbill2

Excuse my ignorance but, what is a tropical dial?

Jacek had a perfect example of a fine tropical dial piece for sale last year, I wish I was the lucky owner of this lovely piece.

to the new owner!

Frogman4me · 13 April 2011, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan1965

David my friend since you asked: 1969 Tropical Red

Thank you Ken, case closed

SLS · 13 April 2011, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan1965

David my friend since you asked: 1969 Tropical Red

Very nice!

Scott

jwalther · 13 April 2011, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

I'd like to hear from a collector who paid extra for a damaged dial.

Anyone here did it?

I wouldn't pay extra, simply because the market generally doesn't demand that you do so. I would however choose a nice spider dial over a "regular" dial any day. . .They remind me of an Old Master painting

GeorgeK · 13 April 2011, 10:41 PM

I'm a sucker for those, I admit.
Anyone has one for sale (16800) let me know!

SWIMPRUF · 13 April 2011, 11:48 PM

Keep it original. might be a nice and unique design.

Jan Davis · 14 April 2011, 12:01 AM

The Rolex watch value depends on everything being original, when you start changing dials you are causing the watch to loose money, if you do not like a spider web dial, then do not buy it. Spider web dials are a part of Rolex history, just like the ceramic bezels that shatter easily.

Chris B · 14 April 2011, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan1965

David my friend since you asked: 1969 Tropical Red

Well that certainly brightened up a dull Wednesday

Great pic Ken

Lion · 14 April 2011, 12:19 AM

You know...each to their as remember there is a large portion of our populations who think we are nuts for buying a Rolex and spending all that money on a watch when a $10.00 Timex would suffice!!!

MonBK · 14 April 2011, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jan Davis

The Rolex watch value depends on everything being original, when you start changing dials you are causing the watch to loose money, if you do not like a spider web dial, then do not buy it. Spider web dials are a part of Rolex history, just like the ceramic bezels that shatter easily.

That I agree with but when people are buying dials to add to a watch then it's not original.

dbphotos · 14 April 2011, 03:33 AM

Thanks for all the interaction on this. It has been interesting to see the many different opinions.

13 April 2011, 06:49 AM	#36
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13 April 2011, 06:50 AM	#37
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13 April 2011, 07:31 AM	#41
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,757	I'd imagine there's some severe moisture intrusion for this kind of patina to occur! __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

13 April 2011, 07:34 AM	#42
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13 April 2011, 10:48 AM	#47
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13 April 2011, 07:06 AM	#38
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	I'd like to hear from a collector who paid extra for a damaged dial. Anyone here did it?

13 April 2011, 07:34 AM	#43
Frogman4me Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 6,268	That dial is damaged by water, I would never consider that a tropical dial.

13 April 2011, 10:41 PM	#52
GeorgeK "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: The Alps Posts: 408	I'm a sucker for those, I admit. Anyone has one for sale (16800) let me know!

13 April 2011, 11:48 PM	#53
SWIMPRUF "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: * Posts: 2,323	Keep it original. might be a nice and unique design.

14 April 2011, 12:01 AM	#54
Jan Davis Fake Identity Cyber-Criminal Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Jan Location: Hong Kong Watch: DateJust Posts: 394	The Rolex watch value depends on everything being original, when you start changing dials you are causing the watch to loose money, if you do not like a spider web dial, then do not buy it. Spider web dials are a part of Rolex history, just like the ceramic bezels that shatter easily.

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