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Old 1 December 2012, 09:04 AM   #31
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It's a perfectly legitimate question by the op especially since as padi says they are photographed and advertised that way. So naturally there is an expectation that the watch should be that way. Whether or not its possible, desirable the question besides some clap trap about gaskets has not been answered. Given other's observations about watch brands whose logo does line up- perhaps they employ a differently engineered system of a winding crown? Is it inferior or superior to rolexes? Or maybe there is another set of concerns in building a crown into a watch? I would venture to guess its done this way for a reason it's not like Rolex hasn't thought about it. Would be interesting to know...
Clap trap?
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Old 1 December 2012, 01:50 PM   #32
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Clap trap?
Claptrap: A trap to catch a "clap", the sort of clap you make by putting your hands together in appreciation. Its first appearance in print is in Nathan Bailey’s dictionary of 1721 and his definition pretty much tells the whole story: “A Clap Trap, a name given to the rant and rhimes that dramatick poets, to please the actors, let them get off with: as much as to say, a trap to catch a clap, by way of applause from the spectators at a play.”

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Old 1 December 2012, 07:35 PM   #33
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For those obsessed with this, there is a solution.

"The Dwellers of the Sky" follow the path of true alignment!!
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Old 2 December 2012, 03:09 AM   #34
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FWIW: every watch I've sent to RSC - Dallas (not NY) has come back with the crown lining up correctly. Attention to detail = Another reason why Dallas get's my vote (for warranty service).
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Old 4 December 2012, 04:46 AM   #35
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Claptrap: A trap to catch a "clap", the sort of clap you make by putting your hands together in appreciation. Its first appearance in print is in Nathan Bailey’s dictionary of 1721 and his definition pretty much tells the whole story: “A Clap Trap, a name given to the rant and rhimes that dramatick poets, to please the actors, let them get off with: as much as to say, a trap to catch a clap, by way of applause from the spectators at a play.”

Yes, but common usage has reduced the term to mean something contrived or trivial, hence the Bartmoon.
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Old 4 December 2012, 02:11 PM   #36
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On a serviced Rolex both the triplock and the twinlock are rated to there depths with the crown open. The crown lock serves the same function as the Daytona pusher locks which BTW don't have a pusher seal. If you want/need/must look perfect then wind your crown in until it is snug and then unwind it to where you like. This will not compromise the water resistance and everyone will be happy.

On a freshly serviced Rolex the triplock seal is rated to 500 Bar unscrewed.

That is a long way down.
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Old 7 December 2012, 01:48 AM   #37
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On a serviced Rolex both the triplock and the twinlock are rated to there depths with the crown open. The crown lock serves the same function as the Daytona pusher locks which BTW don't have a pusher seal. If you want/need/must look perfect then wind your crown in until it is snug and then unwind it to where you like. This will not compromise the water resistance and everyone will be happy.

On a freshly serviced Rolex the triplock seal is rated to 500 Bar unscrewed.

That is a long way down.
I do not think leaving the crown loose is a good idea...
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Old 8 December 2012, 03:46 AM   #38
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FWIW: every watch I've sent to RSC - Dallas (not NY) has come back with the crown lining up correctly. Attention to detail = Another reason why Dallas get's my vote (for warranty service).
I would find it unacceptable if a RSC returned a watch without lining up the screwed in crown. If they did, I would wonder what other shortcuts were made inside the watch.
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Old 11 December 2012, 08:40 AM   #39
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FWIW: every watch I've sent to RSC - Dallas (not NY) has come back with the crown lining up correctly. Attention to detail = Another reason why Dallas get's my vote (for warranty service).
I've never even looked at the crown after a service.

Pretty cool that they take the time to do this.
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Old 12 December 2012, 04:03 AM   #40
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For those obsessed with this, there is a solution.

"The Dwellers of the Sky" follow the path of true alignment!!
Yeap, as pointed out (I think by Alpino), Rolex has filed a patent regarding this "big" issue...
https://data.epo.org/publication-ser...32&ki=A2&cc=EP
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Old 12 December 2012, 08:32 AM   #41
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Hmmm..Can't tell also. I am quite confused. :D
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Old 12 December 2012, 02:34 PM   #42
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Why can't Rolex make crown when screwed to the case tight, with the head up or crown in the right position?
This is perfect,
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This is NOT perfect
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Agreed, but I am not certain that photo depicts, what I consider right side up. Crown facing 12, on the other hand... YES YES YES
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Old 3 January 2013, 09:10 PM   #43
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I wonder how many Subs coming off the line actually do line up perfectly 10%? agree with the op would be nice if they did make them line up perfectly would be just another example towards perfection on the finished piece..
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Old 3 January 2013, 09:39 PM   #44
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Yeap, as pointed out (I think by Alpino), Rolex has filed a patent regarding this "big" issue...
https://data.epo.org/publication-ser...32&ki=A2&cc=EP
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Guess I got lucky mine is a tad to the left when looking straight at it, maybe just enough to make it allign perfect when the gasket wears some.
Mine is a little to the right. Matches my politics.

It has occurred to me that a prescription for OCD might be in order here. But then again this is a Rolex site. This is a waste of bandwidth.
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Old 4 January 2013, 01:35 AM   #46
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http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/1223/imageyla.jpg 41 yrs and my crowns perfectly aligned(or at least as far as I can tell when full screwed in)
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Old 4 January 2013, 06:08 AM   #47
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Yeap, as pointed out (I think by Alpino), Rolex has filed a patent regarding this "big" issue...
https://data.epo.org/publication-ser...32&ki=A2&cc=EP
Are you sure?

I don't speak French but that patent application looks like it covers the mechanicals of the crown, not logo alignment.

Plenty of drawings of the mechanism but none of the crown logo...
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Old 26 June 2013, 05:45 AM   #48
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I would find it unacceptable if a RSC returned a watch without lining up the screwed in crown. If they did, I would wonder what other shortcuts were made inside the watch.
They don't even come from the factory aligned, except by chance.

Why would anyone expect such from the RSC?

Of course, if it's within their power to make such an adjustment and they take the time to do so, then good for them and the owners who care.
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They are mostly widely available watches. Just look for one as you like. Easy peasy.
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Old 27 June 2013, 12:03 PM   #51
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I don't speak French but that patent application looks like it covers the mechanicals of the crown, not logo alignment.
I do speak French and the application DOES indeed pertain to logo alignment. Section [0018] states that the proposed invention is designed to meet requirement #1. That requirement is defined in column 8. The "signe distinctif visible de l'extérieur" is the crown logo. Its alignment is referenced beginning in line 35.

So Rolex is working on it.

The system described in the application is complicated and its adoption would surely be reflected in the price. Would it be worth it?
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The system described in the application is complicated and its adoption would surely be reflected in the price. Would it be worth it?
So you're saying don't expect an $8,500 SS Sky Dweller any time soon?
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Old 28 June 2013, 05:14 AM   #54
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Speaking of crowns, I bought a new SS PP Nautilus back in about 1992. Was on a plane trip and pulled the crown out to reset the time and the crown/stem came completely out of the watch and fell under the seats in the aircraft! Spent a frantic 10 minutes before finding it. Sent it to Stern's and reply was they're all like that. Just be careful when you pull out the crown! That and only guarantee of waterproof on the watch was to have it serviced yearly by PP some of the reasons why I didn't keep it very long.
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Old 27 July 2013, 10:25 AM   #55
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I do speak French and the application DOES indeed pertain to logo alignment. Section [0018] states that the proposed invention is designed to meet requirement #1. That requirement is defined in column 8. The "signe distinctif visible de l'extérieur" is the crown logo. Its alignment is referenced beginning in line 35.

So Rolex is working on it.

The system described in the application is complicated and its adoption would surely be reflected in the price. Would it be worth it?
Thanks, Frenchie! Hey, I loved you in Grease...
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