Submariner stopped running just 3 mo after RSC service!

[Presa canary]

Originally Posted by shadowcaster

Thanks Billy. Now here's a twist. Just for grins, about a 1/2 hr ago, I manually advanced the time about 2 hrs and guess what ? It starting ticking again and has been running for that long.

I don't have great hopes that it will continue working (something made it stop) but who knows.

Maybe now it's been wound correctly? Best of luck

[shadowcaster]

@Presa canary....didn't wind it again at all, just advanced the hands a couple of hrs.

Well, here we are almost 24hs later and it's still ticking and keeping time spot on.

Originally Posted by RollieVerde

Wow. That's interesting. I wonder if any of the fine watch techs (Yes, talking' 'bout you, V) have any thoughts on what might be going on. It's a genuine puzzle to the likes of me.

Pm'd "V", maybe she can shed some light on this.

[Vanessa CW21]

I'm GUESSING you have a loose screw... I mean your watch does!
I have a feeling the tiny screw may have been blocking some gears earlier and when you advanced the hands the screw moved out of the way of the wheels and is tucked in a corner at the moment until it gets knocked around and will block the wheels again! It is not a super uncommon occurrence and it is most likely to happen shortly after service because one of the screws may not have been fastened enough.
It is definitely under warranty and it is an easy fix if the screw is easily accessible. (otherwise they have to disassemble the movement again, but that's not your problem)

Again, this is my most likely guess...

[shadowcaster]

Thanks Vanessa, I really appreciate you're taking a look at this. I'll take it to my local Tourneau AD, who has a watchmaker on premises, on Thurs, and update after that.

[shadowcaster]

Well, took it to Tourneau and their watchmaker took it in right away. Took about 20 min to open up and inspect.

He found nothing wrong, no loose screw or anything else. His best guess was that the slip spring (which prevents the mainspring from being over wound) caused the stop. Then advancing the hands "kick started" it back into operation. He said that he has seen this happen before.

So, for now, all is well. Still 21 months left under the warranty.

[RollieVerde]

That's yet another thing that goes to show you there's a lot going on in that case. Thanks for weighing in Vanessa, and Frank I hope it will keep on purring along problem-free for years, as it should.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by shadowcaster

Well, took it to Tourneau and their watchmaker took it in right away. Took about 20 min to open up and inspect.

He found nothing wrong, no loose screw or anything else. His best guess was that the slip spring (which prevents the mainspring from being over wound) caused the stop. Then advancing the hands "kick started" it back into operation. He said that he has seen this happen before.

So, for now, all is well. Still 21 months left under the warranty.

IMO Tourneau's watchmaker is wrong.

The slip on the mainspring will not release all the spring's energy when operating correctly. A broken spring could explain it but then the 'slip' function would not be operating.
I hope it continues to run as it should until its next service.

[Presa canary]

Originally Posted by directioneng

IMO Tourneau's watchmaker is wrong.

The slip on the mainspring will not release all the spring's energy when operating correctly. A broken spring could explain it but then the 'slip' function would not be operating.
I hope it continues to run as it should until its next service.

Ya, I think it just needed a proper shake and wind. Here's to the ops watch running smoothly....

[Vanessa CW21]

Originally Posted by RollieVerde

That's yet another thing that goes to show you there's a lot going on in that case. Thanks for weighing in Vanessa, and Frank I hope it will keep on purring along problem-free for years, as it should.

You are correct! A lot is going on in that case! That's why it's so hard to diagnose a problem just based on a written explanation!
I've personally never heard the slip spring theory in this scenario, and it does seem a little unlikely, but hey, maybe I've learned something new today.

Movements tend to have stubborn personalities sometimes and they won't show the issue when there's a "doctor" in the house!
I hope the problem straightened itself out and you won't have to worry about it anymore! :)

[shadowcaster]

Thanks all !

Funny, I questioned the watchmaker as well because the watch was still fully wound from before the stop. I didn't understand why the slip spring would be the culprit either, however I didn't want to keep questioning him as long as there was nothing wrong that he could find.

It ran for another 48 hrs and was running when I handed it over to him. Still running now.

[shadowcaster]

Originally Posted by Vanessa CW21

You are correct! A lot is going on in that case! That's why it's so hard to diagnose a problem just based on a written explanation!
I've personally never heard the slip spring theory in this scenario, and it does seem a little unlikely, but hey, maybe I've learned something new today.

Movements tend to have stubborn personalities sometimes and they won't show the issue when there's a "doctor" in the house!
I hope the problem straightened itself out and you won't have to worry about it anymore! :)

You're so right Vanessa, I see this all the time on the car forums that I belong to. However, members ALWAYS appreciate an educated opinion. Yours gave me one more thing to mention to the watchmaker, so, again, Thank You!

[Vanessa CW21]

Originally Posted by shadowcaster

You're so right Vanessa, I see this all the time on the car forums that I belong to. However, members ALWAYS appreciate an educated opinion. Yours gave me one more thing to mention to the watchmaker, so, again, Thank You!

My pleasure! Anytime. ;)

[Eric Chan]

I would take it back. The service is backed by a warranty and I would push for them to pay for the shipping as this is not your fault that it stopped working. For a $900 service that did not perform, it would be in their best interest to make the customer happy here.