BIG Tudor Black Bay Bronze problem

[unknown]

I hope you don't mind I just post a link this time

Most of you know that site too :-)


http://www.watchprosite.com/rolex/so...936.8966566/0/

[beshannon]

No issues with mine

[unknown]

Originally Posted by beshannon

No issues with mine

Dare to put it in seawater or salt water ?
Let's say 2 hrs in the water, then a few hours out of the water ... and repeat it a couple of times

These watches claim to be made to be used as a diver watch

[vipereaper30]

Well mine has seen plenty of saltwater with no issues. That case looks like it's been subjected to more than saltwater.

One pic with a minor bezel flaw does not equal a problem, let alone a big one...

[wach16]

That is crazy...You would think with the backing of Rolex's R&D that this would never happen!

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by unknown

Dare to put it in seawater or salt water ?
Let's say 2 hrs in the water, then a few hours out of the water ... and repeat it a couple of times

These watches claim to be made to be used as a diver watch

No.

Then again I did not buy it as a divers watch.

And for the record this seems to be the only person having an issue, at least that I have seen posted.

[cangelosijeff]

I had the same issue with mine last summer 2 weeks into ownership, despite rinsing after saltwater use. Replaced via RSC gratis. Flipped it so can't comment on repeat damage.

[cangelosijeff]

Follow both the inner and outer edges from 3 through 14 or so.

[unknown]

Originally Posted by beshannon

And for the record this seems to be the only person having an issue, at least that I have seen posted.

That person is me lol
I made the post

Are you on Instagram? Than you might also know MrTudor... contact him
Believe me, I'm not the only one

[unknown]

Originally Posted by cangelosijeff

Follow both the inner and outer edges from 3 through 14 or so.

That is the same problem !

[Wesley Crusher]

Maybe Tudor should focus more on their qc issues and less on Beckham and Gaga.

[osamu]

little scary, but yea, I tried a quick search online and couldn't find much on the topic. You'd think they've been out quite a while that many others would be facing a similar issue (although the post refers to definite other who noticed black spots/corrosion, just not posting online).

It also notes one where "half the inlay was gone", now that I would want to see a picture of.

I mean, if it's something like when un-anodized aluminum (like foil) comes into contact with acidic or salty foods, the definitely could see an issue, but I would have to assume the bronze would have to play an effect given how long Tudor/Rolex have used aluminum inserts, but interesting that the example shown the holes are on the interior of the bezel next to the sapphire, not where the bronze is.

[Quicksilver]

Looks like there is a problem. Mine is fine but I have not yet exposed it to salt water - only domestic shower water. It's a dive watch - Tudor need to address this.

[unknown]

Originally Posted by osamu

It also notes one where "half the inlay was gone", now that I would want to see a picture of.

Same link as in my first post
If you are on the watchprosite website, scroll a bit
I made a reply with that specific picture

[osamu]

Originally Posted by unknown

Same link as in my first post
If you are on the watchprosite website, scroll a bit
I made a reply with that specific picture

I had to click like a "view entire thread" button, for anyone else who couldn't see it.

WOW, that looks bad, and some crazy patina on the whole watch. Almost looks like it is forced patina, but obviously someone who surfs everyday would be subjecting that watch to a lot of salt water, so not surprising to see that level of patina on the case.

[meganfox17]

That sounds like Galvanic Corrosion occuring at the contact point between 2 metals or metal alloys with salt water acting as the electrolyte medium. The holes mentioned by the OP on the bezel insert of the Tudor Bronze are actually called pits.

The greater the difference in oxidation potential between the 2 metals in contact , the more serius is the Galvanic Corrosion. The less nobel or active Aluminium insert of the bezel (acting as the anode) will be eaten away slowly , the more nobel bronze will not corrode and remains inactive (Acting as the cathode)

p/s : I grew up near a tradisional fishing village where fishing boats docking at the jetty always show galvanic corrosions at points of contact between nuts and bolts screwed tightly onto metal plates used to strengthen the wooden boats

[Buellrider]

Yep, I would say Galvanic corrosion as well. Tudor should really look into replacing the aluminum bezel insert with something else, like ceramic.

The Pelagos, in theory, would have this same issue if it had an aluminum insert versus the ceramic. Ti and aluminum are further apart in the scale than bronze and aluminum.

[sager]

Wow. I expected better QC.

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by meganfox17

That sounds like Galvanic Corrosion occuring at the contact point between 2 metals or metal alloys with salt water acting as the electrolyte medium. The holes mentioned by the OP on the bezel insert of the Tudor Bronze are actually called pits.

The greater the difference in oxidation potential between the 2 metals in contact , the more serius is the Galvanic Corrosion. The less nobel or active Aluminium insert of the bezel (acting as the anode) will be eaten away slowly , the more nobel bronze will not corrode and remains inactive (Acting as the cathode)

p/s : I grew up near a tradisional fishing village where fishing boats docking at the jetty always show galvanic corrosions at points of contact between nuts and bolts screwed tightly onto metal plates used to strengthen the wooden boats

Good analysis, sorry to anyone having issues. I never intended mine to be a dive watch so this thought never crossed my mind. Not sure what Rolex can do at this point except keep replacing them under warranty.

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

Maybe Tudor should focus more on their qc issues and less on Beckham and Gaga.

So if Tudor didn't sign brand ambassadors, this would have never been an issue? Blame Gaga! lol. Here we go again!

[Luap1976]

Ive never heard of rolex 16610 inserts having this issue so why would the bb bronze insert have this problem?the regular bb don't have this problem in salt water its strange

[willski]

Originally Posted by Luap1976

Ive never heard of rolex 16610 inserts having this issue so why would the bb bronze insert have this problem?the regular bb don't have this problem in salt water its strange

From my understanding SS is a more noble metal and less reactive than bronze.


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[Wesley Crusher]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

So if Tudor didn't sign brand ambassadors, this would have never been an issue? Blame Gaga! lol. Here we go again!

There is no need to be upset.

[Etschell]

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

There is no need to be upset.

The comment wasnt even relevant.

Secondly bronze corrodes and at contact points corrodes other metals. Simple solution for tudor is to have a bronze bezel insert instead.

No excuse but let's not act like its the end of the world.

And for anyone saying it never happens with rolex watches remember the non 2.5x mags that rolex passed off on customers and refused to admit were defective....

[JohnnyNoDate]

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

There is no need to be upset.

Please stop. (cringe)

[Wesley Crusher]

Originally Posted by Etschell

The comment wasnt even relevant.

Secondly bronze corrodes and at contact points corrodes other metals. Simple solution for tudor is to have a bronze bezel insert instead.

No excuse but let's not act like its the end of the world.

And for anyone saying it never happens with rolex watches remember the non 2.5x mags that rolex passed off on customers and refused to admit were defective....

I was joking. Yes, it's not the end of the world. I hope Tudor fixes the issue.

[Luap1976]

Originally Posted by willski

From my understanding SS is a more noble metal and less reactive than bronze.


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I thought the bb bronze insert is made of the same aluminum material as the regular black bay and the old rolex subs and gmts

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

There is no need to be upset.

I'm not upset. I asked you if you actually think their marketing choices had anything to do with a QC issue on a single model? Judging by your response, I assume you don't.

So now I wonder why you'd make the comment at all.

[Luap1976]

Originally Posted by Etschell

The comment wasnt even relevant.

Secondly bronze corrodes and at contact points corrodes other metals. Simple solution for tudor is to have a bronze bezel insert instead.

No excuse but let's not act like its the end of the world.

And for anyone saying it never happens with rolex watches remember the non 2.5x mags that rolex passed off on customers and refused to admit were defective....

Thanks this makes sense now

[Etschell]

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

I was joking. Yes, it's not the end of the world. I hope Tudor fixes the issue.

My mistake then i missed it

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